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Matt Pillios reveals how he went from broke and in debt to selling $600M in property and why "winning ugly instead of losing pretty" changed everything. He shares the athlete mindset, daily systems, and brutal truths that turned his life into sustainable success. Matt Pillios is the Director of Kay & Burton and was ranked Victoria's #1 real estate agent in 2023, selling over 200 properties worth $600M+ in two years while working with AFL stars and high-net-worth clients. After being broke for his first four years in real estate and starting at 35, he redefined how he approaches work, fitness, relationships, and wealth. He explains: ◼️ Why he treats real estate "like an AFL season" (and takes a mandatory off-season) ◼️ The 11-out-of-14 training routine that keeps him mentally sharp ◼️ Why your partner at home is your most important business decision ◼️ What billionaires told him about being "truly rich" ◼️ The difference between winning ugly and losing pretty (and why it matters) ◼️ Why getting physically fit changed everything about his business ◼️ The toxic clients he fired that led to his best year ever ◼️ How to handle financial stress without destroying yourself ◼️ Why wealthy people have the most regrets (and how to avoid them) 00:00 Intro 01:27 How Matt Maintains Extreme High Energy Consistently 04:13 Training Like an Athlete in Real Estate 08:40 Protecting Energy With 30+ Clients 12:48 Balancing High Expectations With Team Dynamics 14:45 The "Why" Behind the Work Ethic 16:27 What Keeps Him Up at Night 24:24 Advice for People in Financial Stress 27:28 Being a Present Dad While Working Extreme Hours 32:01 Would He Sacrifice Income for Family Unity Again? 37:04 Best Year Yet - What's Changed Since Last Podcast 40:55 Growth Mindset and Staying Hungry 46:43 Current Investment Strategy 51:01 One Piece of Advice for Young Agents 53:03 Proudest Day Looking Back at 80 54:50 Outro
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